
Bad things happen in the name of Islam. An article that’s been doing the rounds of Facebook highlights Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s courageous campaign against these bad things. And it focusses particularly, on frustration that ‘western liberals’ (I think that’s me) do not support her in that campaign. But I wonder if the author (Jeff Robbins) has mistaken critique for criticism? I wonder if he has thought enough about how we, from our different cultural spaces, can fight for justice and sustain multicultural harmony. And most importantly, I wonder if he has considered how we might, through our own work starve fundamentalism and extremism, rather than feeding it?
I won’t speak for other ‘western liberals’, but I support Ms Hirsi Ali in her abhorrence of evil acts, including when those acts are perpetrated by Muslims, or justified in the name of Islam. I believe that we should, indeed, stand against abuse of human rights, and abuse of the human spirit. It is inspiring and courageous to see someone stand for human dignity in the face of madness, violence and hostility that is too often justified in the name of Islam (or Christianity, or Hinduism, or Capitalism, or Communism, or Nationalism).
Where I might disagree with her (and it’s anything but a ‘comfortable pro-Islamic narrative’) is when she, or more likely some of her supporters, ask me to focus my horror of those abuses on an entire religion, or when they suggest that the solution lies in breaking or silencing that religion. I think that she, like other atheists (notably Richard Dawkins), walks a dangerous road of defining a religion by its fundamentalists. The trouble with that is it empowers the fundamentalists, and alienates moderates and reformers. I’m an atheist in most senses of the word, but I often meet Muslims (and Christians, and Hindus, and Jews) who have beautiful, life-enhancing, egalitarian values. Sometimes these values stem from the ancient religious traditions that they love. Sometimes the values arise from their simple love of humanity, and they have easily moved on from cruel edicts that were made thousands of years ago, in a different world.
Of course, too many people use religion (or race, or nation, or gender) to justify evil acts. (By ‘evil’ I mean any act that knowingly and unnecessarily hurts another or chokes their Spirit.) But others of that same religion (or race, or nation, or gender) reject those evil acts and argue that their religion, in its ancient or modern form does not justify those acts. These adherents of the same religion differ and sometimes clash. And I’m on the side of the latter group. So what can I do to empower them, rather than alienate them?
Well…here’s the point where I feel Ms Hirsi Ali’s message may need to be delivered with care, if it is not to feed the fundamentalists. Encouraging non-Muslims to argue that there is something inherently abhorrent in Islam could do great damage. Because when we do that, we broaden the number of Muslims who start to feel like they are being unfairly attacked or judged. And people who feel unfairly attacked or judged might be that little bit more likely to be drawn to a more antagonistic brand of Islam. We should stand shoulder to shoulder with those, like Ms Hirsi Ali, who stand against abuse. But—this is important—let’s leave the theological analysis to Muslims.
To repeat: of course, we should all support Ms Hirsi Ali and other Muslims, or Muslim-born, in their campaign for human rights, dignity and justice within the Muslim world. This woman who I am questioning has more courage and commitment than I will ever have. And we should use her as inspiration in fighting for those same human rights, dignity and justice in our own religious and cultural worlds. In doing that, though, we should fight in a way that fans the flame of connection and reform and human spirit, rather than the destructive flames of alienation and fundamentalism.
Tim
This is such a difficult conversation to have in the current climate. The executive producer of the ABC programme Q and A agrees
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-10/peter-mcevoy-a-gentle-word-on-the-state-of-australian-debate/8426894
But I wonder why you think non-Muslims having opinions about the current incarnation of Islam is wrong. It seems perfectly permissible for non-Christians to have a lot of opinions about Christian faith and practice. It happens all the time, and a lot of the commentary is incorrect, biased, and ill-informed. But that does not mean that the community as a whole should not shine some sunlight into the space and reveal injustice where it exists as the current Royal Commission into Child Abuse is clearly doing.
And by suggesting “we leave the theological analysis [about Islam] to Muslims” you are discounting the deep scholarship that exists within the Christian world about Islam (and other faiths more generally). Many Christian scholars are experts about Islam and even at the community level there is multi-faith engagement that belies much of the “talk back radio” analysis that goes on. Many Christians are very knowledgeable about the theology that unpins the Islamic tradition, as they should be.
Islam is one of the three major Abrahamic religions (descending from Abraham) – Judaism, Christianity and Islam. These religions are linked by history and practice. As such, we have the right and obligation to speak to, and about, each other. The space for dialogue belongs to us all.
Great food for thought. Thanks Peta. Just to respond to each of your paragraphs:
re Para 2…I don’t think there’s anything wrong with non-Muslims having opinions about what happens in the name of Islam (or, as you point out, non-Christians about Christianity). I am personally and publicly horrified by some of the acts justified in the name of Islam, as I indicated with the opening sentence. But when you say it’s OK to have an opinion about “the current incarnation of Islam” it implies that there is one incarnation. There is grave danger in that implication. Are the millions of Muslim women challenging misogyny in Islam a part of the “current incarnation”. Or is the one incarnation those who support fundamentalism, religious exceptionalism and violence? From my view, we SHOULD stand against the latter. But when we suggest that those latter are “Islam”, we help to silence those millions of women. We have every right to criticise actions done in the name of Islam. But we should never suggest that all Muslims are implicated in those actions. That’s my key point in this article.
Re the theological analysis (Para 3) – yes, I think this is a fair call. I perhaps meant “leave the theological analysis to theologians”. I find inter-faith dialogue between well-informed people exhilarating. What I find damaging, though, is ill-informed outsiders justifying their views by offering a simplistic and/or myopic snippet of profound, rich, and ever-contestable religious tradition. And I find that these outsiders are often expressing the views of extremists or literalists, thus empowering the latter, and silencing those who want to engage in exploration of the human condition rather than dogmatic beliefs. (Witness the atheist Richard Dawkins telling us that Christians who don’t believe in creationism are ‘cherry-picking’ and not real Christians.) I am told, relatively frequently, (by non-Muslims) that Islam REQUIRES violence. That’s a piece of ‘lay-theology’ that is unhelpful, and refuted by virtually every Muslim that I respect. I’m sure that many adherents of ISIS probably believe that too. But let’s not dignify their belief with blind agreement.
And re Para 4…yes. I agree. But I prefer that dialogue when it’s well informed. If we want to understand climate change, we should listen most carefully to climate scientists. If we want to understand theology, I think we should listen most carefully to theologians. And I would even add a guiding principle for such dialogue, (to quote a phrase commonly uttered by Aboriginal Australians) “Don’t talk about us without us”.
And finally, back to Para 1, some thoughts from a few weeks ago…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdOaM29Ti5U
Tim
I am not sure why use of the term “current incarnation” of Islam is troublesome. In March 2015 Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, spokesperson for ISIS, declared the creation of the Islamic caliphate, “the jihadis’ long-running dream.” This marks the first time the caliphate has been “restored” by anyone since Ataturk abolished it almost 100 years ago.
This is an incarnation – a birth if you wish – of a different way of talking about Islam in modern times. It does not mean that there are not other ways of taking about (or being) Muslim. It just means we have a new way (in modern time). It would seem that talking about this new way of being Muslim is where we get into a great deal of complexity.
Within the Christian tradition there are many precedents for such “incarnations” of thought and practice. The most well known for most of those in the West is The European Reformation (c1517) when Martin Luther and others began the development of Christian thought and practice which was different from that over which the Catholic church had held sway since the 4th century CE. The Reformation did not mean the Catholic church went away, but it did mean that large groups of people began to think about their theology and religious practice in a totally different way.
A particular helpful parallel with the creation of the Islamic caliphate is the English Reformation (c1530). The English Reformation was at the outset more about politics than a theological dispute between Henry VIII and Rome. It was all about power. And the theological debate gave a practical framework through which that pursuit of power could be exercised. The events surrounding the English Reformation led to wholesale murder and it caused distress and disruption to all stratas of English society (and beyond). It still echoes within Christian thought and practice today. Nowhere is that more clearly observed than in Ireland with all that has gone on to reconcile winners and losers since Cromwell went there with an agenda c1640. That is a very long time ago!! And even now the reconciliation is patchy.
There are a couple of problems with the current conversation about Islam. The first is that most “Christians” do not know their history. These nominally Christian people have a great deal to say about things they know nothing about. The critique is shamefully lazy and ill informed.
The second problem we face in the discussion is that the Islamic caliphate has nothing to do with life faith and practice of most Muslims. It is about politics and power.
I believe it is possible to speak about the faith and practice of Muslim people with respect and concern, while at the same time condemning the Islamic caliphate and calling it out for what it is. Determined, deadly, and disruptive to the World Order. It is not unreasonable for people to be concerned about that. Some of the commentary is a bit gauche but that does not mean that that the concerns being expressed are not valid. History does have a way of repeating itself!
Hi Peta,
I love most of what you’ve written here; particularly the historic parallels and your wonderfully succinct final three paragraphs . But I am still troubled by the idea of dignifying the current madness of ISIS with the description ‘the current incarnation’. I know that ISIS might make that claim. I just don’t think we should collude with it. Surely that betrays the millions who are proudly Muslim and do not accept their claim?
I fully accept that non-Muslim’s can, should, and do have strong opinions about ISIS, and about the claims of Abu Mohammed al-Adnani. But surely we should not meekly accept this as ‘the new incarnation’? At least not until a majority of Muslim’s do, and I see no sign of that. Perhaps, in 200 years, we will look back and be able to say that it was, indeed, ‘the new incarnation’. But to do so now is to presume an outcome that, I suspect, is too early to predict.
I would be slightly more comfortable with calling it ‘A (rather than ‘the’) current incarnation’. But only slightly. I still think it’s dignifying religious madness. Why not just call it something like ‘the philosophies of ISIS?’ Or perhaps ‘the dangerous rise of violent Islamic extremism’?
Does that make sense? It’s just a small, but important, note on terminology.
Apart from that (to repeat) I love what you’ve written.
Thanks.